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you cannot cut your way to deficit retacks. what does reduce the deficit are somebody, job creation. we have spending cut and medicare saving and we need re-knew. >> john: four weekends until the country goes over the fiscal cliff. bring in panel. charles lane for "washington post" with us. nina easton from quot fortune" magazine and of course, sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. get to the fiscal cliff in a second. but first, the job report this morning, 7.7% unemployment because so many people left the workforce. 146,000 jobs. the question a lot of people are asking is when are we going get back to good honest job creation to grow the economy? what is it going to take? >> political will in a word. what is interesting about the jobs numbers and the economy in general is that it's not so much the fundamentals of the economy. businesses who hire people who create jobs which nancy pelosi is looking for are looking for political will out of washington. they are looking for certainty on the fiscal cliff. certainty that debt re
you cannot cut your way to deficit retacks. what does reduce the deficit are somebody, job creation. we have spending cut and medicare saving and we need re-knew. >> john: four weekends until the country goes over the fiscal cliff. bring in panel. charles lane for "washington post" with us. nina easton from quot fortune" magazine and of course, sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. get to the fiscal cliff in a second. but first, the job report this morning, 7.7%...
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it makes the deficit better. it would go a long way toward curing the deficit, but the deficit isn't the immediate problem for most people, the weak economy is. >> i agree. >> and if we dive off the fiscal cliff, the economy could get much weaker. that's -- >> by the way -- >> -- millions of americans. it's a problem for barack obama. >> just to back you up, i really think the great thing is the economy is just starting to lift up a. the unemployment rate is really starting to come down. we're getting good job production. thank you so much, ladies, for coming on tonight. thanks for the sharp thinking we got tonight. >>> up next, if you can't win by the rules, change then. that's what republicans are trying to do in pennsylvania. they don't like the lerer toal college because it didn't work for them. come back for the place for politics. derate alzheimer's, you'll also care about our new offer. you get access to nurses who can help with your questions. and your loved one can get exelon patch free for 30 days. if t
it makes the deficit better. it would go a long way toward curing the deficit, but the deficit isn't the immediate problem for most people, the weak economy is. >> i agree. >> and if we dive off the fiscal cliff, the economy could get much weaker. that's -- >> by the way -- >> -- millions of americans. it's a problem for barack obama. >> just to back you up, i really think the great thing is the economy is just starting to lift up a. the unemployment rate is really...
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the percentage of your debt as the deficit to the gdp. the deficit to gdp. a deficit to gdp. now, we don't want to get there that we. the same way we don't want to go over the fiscal cliff. in other words, the fiscal cliff is a big austerity. we get $7 trillion in the deficit reduction over the last ten years. but you don't do it the way we want to do it. when it comes to the baseline, we have to work together as part of an agreement to get the right baseline but that doesn't mean it is not for real world deficit reduction. it is. does it mean that it's better than the current law? maybe not. but there is an agreement that in the fiscal cliff is not the best way. >> we could add the baseline. the deficit to gdp. >> you said the deficit. >> you look at the current line baseline and get under 1% of deficit to gdp. >> seven years and 7 trillion of debt reduction. if anybody wants to read more about, please look at that space on what it takes. i thank you all for being here today. one reason we have to end it is that these people are going to be so instrumental in getting us out
the percentage of your debt as the deficit to the gdp. the deficit to gdp. a deficit to gdp. now, we don't want to get there that we. the same way we don't want to go over the fiscal cliff. in other words, the fiscal cliff is a big austerity. we get $7 trillion in the deficit reduction over the last ten years. but you don't do it the way we want to do it. when it comes to the baseline, we have to work together as part of an agreement to get the right baseline but that doesn't mean it is not for...
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we don't want medicare, medicaid, and social security to be used as part of deficit reducing bill in such a short period of time. >> the clock is winding down towards the fiscal cliff. once considered untouchable third rail, changes to social security and other so-called entitlements are now being seriously discussed. >> we really have not gun to talk about real entitlement reforms. the only way you have true avoidance where you have solution is to mix an appropriate amount of revenues with true entitlement reform. and until the debate moves to that point, there's no serious debate taking place. >> house republicans offered a framework that includes raising the medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 squeezing out savings from social security by changing the way inflation is calculated, and possible means testing that could disqualify wealthier, older americans from the medicare program. lawmakers insist any changes will be done gradually and will not impact current retirees, but that's not soothing the fears of seniors who say inflation adjustments will have an immediate impact. >> t
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a lot and create the ability to deal with our deficit more reasonably and still provide for people in a more reasonable way. >> so, jared, another area of concern is republicans are now threatening to use the debt ceiling again to basically take the country hostage again. yesterday i compared the debt ceiling -- >> when you talk about the debt ceiling you get very loud. >> i get very emotional. i don't know about that. i do get very emotional. i compared it it to physicianle c fiscal syphilis yesterday. >> i heard your rant. i linked to it on my blog. >> thank you. last time they took the country hostage, it was very damaging, i think, for confidence in our political system, the u.s. credit rating was actually downgraded. it didn't seem to have that much of an impact on the economy. what can we expect if republicans do decide to use that same tactic again? >> oh, i think we can expect a real economic chaos. the reason why things worked out okay last night was because we actually increased the debt ceiling at the end of the day. the president has been very clear that he's not going to
a lot and create the ability to deal with our deficit more reasonably and still provide for people in a more reasonable way. >> so, jared, another area of concern is republicans are now threatening to use the debt ceiling again to basically take the country hostage again. yesterday i compared the debt ceiling -- >> when you talk about the debt ceiling you get very loud. >> i get very emotional. i don't know about that. i do get very emotional. i compared it it to physicianle c...
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but reduces the deficit is jobs. -- what reduces the deficit is jobs. why are we not here to pass the middle-income tax cuts, which unleashes -- creases the high- and contribution to the budget talks? why are we not here to pass middle-income tax cuts? debatee we not heare to the middle-income tax cuts? could it be that deep republicans are holding the middle-income tax cuts hostage to tak cuts for the wealthy? as long as they will not touch one red cent from the high end, we will never have the revenue to combine with the savings and spending cuts to reduce the deficits to create jobs, grow the economy, and improve the lives of americans. [indiscernible] we want to protect the middle class. it is not about the rates. it is about the money. it is about being a fugitive to the high end. it is about giving money to reduce the deficit, perot the economy, and unleash the power. it depends on how much money you can get and say, they will pay less. the middle class will pay more. >> 37% would bring in reckless and revenues? >> i do not know that. -- 37% would
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>> well, issues like making sure we can pass a balanced approach to deficit reduction. we know we need to have some significance spending cuts. we know that we need to generate some revenue, and we clearly as a result of this election know that the american people support increasing taxes through tax rate increases on the wealthiest 2% of americans. those middle class tax cuts in that legislation would protect the tax cuts for 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. that, as we are in the midst of the holiday season, is absolutely essential to continuing to get our economy turned around and focus on job creation. >> "the new york times" reporting today that negotiations are now down to just two people. the president, the house speaker. we know that some senate democrats dispute this. what do you think about this point with regard to the negotiations and who's in the room? >> i know that the president and his advisers are focused on making sure that in the discussions that they have with both the house and the senate that whatever plan they agree to includes a bala
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would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be if you were handling it? >> i like the idea of the president, john boehner, the key players, getting together with no staff in the room. the second thing, they've got to be guided by a couple of things. number one, what is best for the nation? not my party, not my philosophy, not necessarily my politics. number two -- >> you'd like it one on one. >> editd' i'd like it one on on discuss specifics in a one on one way. second, they may agree there should be short-term steps and long-term steps, i think we can get there. the nation is counting on them doing something significant. >> saints/giants this weekend? >> i've got to go for the saints. i'm -- >> they both need a win. >> g
would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be if you were handling it? >> i like the idea...
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. >> with a trillion dollar deficit right now. so if you cut 94 billion and nothing else changes you barely dented the deficit. the other programs are growing. we'll not see spending decline. in fact we'll likely have a emergency spending bill for sandy that is 60 billion. 94 is gone right there. >> even with a trillion dollars in cuts federal spending is on the way up every year starting with 3.5 trillion this fiscal year. nearly 3.6 trillion in 2014. 4 trillion by 2016 and 5 trillion by 2021. the cbo says even allowing 5 trillion in tax increases to hit the economy the next decade the federal government still spends $2.3 trillion more than it takes in. back to you. melissa: oh, rich edson thanks so much. adam: you think with the physical problems the country faces zooming at us like a 1959 he had sell going at us on a one way treat there would be sense of urgency. president obama has no meetings, no public appearances on the issue planned at least so far today. brad blakeman is not surprised. he says it is a clear sign we're goi
. >> with a trillion dollar deficit right now. so if you cut 94 billion and nothing else changes you barely dented the deficit. the other programs are growing. we'll not see spending decline. in fact we'll likely have a emergency spending bill for sandy that is 60 billion. 94 is gone right there. >> even with a trillion dollars in cuts federal spending is on the way up every year starting with 3.5 trillion this fiscal year. nearly 3.6 trillion in 2014. 4 trillion by 2016 and 5...
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it's actually too much deficit reduck sln too quickly in the wrong parts of the budget. you want a more thoughtful, thought out plan. on your point about the debt ceiling, we what we need is to have certainty, know where we're headed. not have multiple showdowns but the debt ceiling is only going to be increased significantly if it goes hand in hand with a big enough deal which has real changes in the budget. so the best thing we could do is put in place a balanced plan deals with all parts of the budget and really provides the kind of sense of security that households, small businesses, everybody needs to know so we can start planning for the economy and hopefully getting things growing back again. one of the things you see is that when your debt levels are as high as they are, in this country right now, that's a tamp on economic growth and can harm growth. that's the point we're at. we know that part of a growth strategy will have to be getting control of these deficits and debt and fix the debt as basically saying, we have to work this out and do it in a bipartisan wa
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the congressional budget office just announced that the federal budget deficit for the last two months hit $292 billion. if we were to keep spending more than we take in at that rate america would add another $1.7 trillion to the national debt by this time next year. ironically this comes just about one hour after republican house speaker john boehner held a news conference suggesting that the president has been unwilling to compromise on a deal to cut our debt and complaining about washington's, quote, spending program. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table, but none of it is going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. that's not the way to get to an agreement that i think is important for the american people and very important for our economy. alisyn: the bitter partisan fight over the debt deal even came up in a surprising way at last night's national tree lighting ceremony in washington. during a rendition of santa claus is coming to town one of the musicians pause
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we have even published her own study on the deficit, copies of which are available here today. we look forward to continuing this conversation, keeping the dialogue ongoing over the next month and it's critical and we want to solve this problem and we think it will be very enlightening on what the issues are. with that i'm going to turn it over to you in the panel. thank you very much. >> can everybody hear? [inaudible] we do have an all-star panel. tim pawlenty the former governor of minnesota, i wrote that i thought he would have made the strongest presidential candidate. tim is now the head of the financial services roundtable, a job he took a month or two ago and he will be a huge player in washington. chris i have to say, first of all you kept two-thirds of your own district but your margins didn't go down at all. maybe a little bit. i know the county, one county represents for my son as and let's just say -- is a liberal but he did an incredible job. two senators now and on mars reminded when bob dole left the house to go to the senate, the single act -- [inaudible] bob c
we have even published her own study on the deficit, copies of which are available here today. we look forward to continuing this conversation, keeping the dialogue ongoing over the next month and it's critical and we want to solve this problem and we think it will be very enlightening on what the issues are. with that i'm going to turn it over to you in the panel. thank you very much. >> can everybody hear? [inaudible] we do have an all-star panel. tim pawlenty the former governor of...
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so security trust fund doesn't have anything to do with the debt and deficit. but the idea that we're going to simply kick the can on that and have across the board social security cuts, you know, 15 years from now because we didn't step up responsibly i think does a great disservice to those who expected to have those benefits when they reach retirement age. >> senator mark warner, thank you for your time today. >> thank you, richard. >>> let's bring in our political power panel, melinda, democratic strategist morris reed. let's start with you hogan. i want to start with this. senator harry reid used an interesting analogy on the floor to describe the current state of the republican party. listen to this first. >> he's got a problem. he has three quarter backs, sanchez, he's got tim tebow, a guy by the name of mcilroy. he can't describe who is going to be the quarterback. that's the same problem that the republicans are having. romney is there but he's in the background. who is the quarterback, mr. president. >> hogan, what do you think? who's the quarterback?
so security trust fund doesn't have anything to do with the debt and deficit. but the idea that we're going to simply kick the can on that and have across the board social security cuts, you know, 15 years from now because we didn't step up responsibly i think does a great disservice to those who expected to have those benefits when they reach retirement age. >> senator mark warner, thank you for your time today. >> thank you, richard. >>> let's bring in our political power...
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supply deficit on that market and it sure helps to see the good jobs number. that was another supportive situation. when it comes to the copper market, we are again today. one of the strongest metals in the metal complex, the copper market. that is a good sign for economic growth down road. back to you, cheryl casone and dennis kneale. cheryl: thanks to both of you. breaking news into fox business. want to show you once again live pictures out of cairo, egypt. reuters is reporting protesters have breached a military barricade. that barricade is protecting the presidential palace. the protesters are upset about the president's decree giving him almost unquestioned power over his government but reuters reporting the barrier has been broken. they tried two days ago and were unsuccessful. those protesters have had success. we will keep you posted. fiscal cliff survival kit looking for a save haven, munis, maybe the way to go. we will do you y. dennis: employees of random house in for a lot of green, 50 shades of gray. how the world's currencies are faring against
supply deficit on that market and it sure helps to see the good jobs number. that was another supportive situation. when it comes to the copper market, we are again today. one of the strongest metals in the metal complex, the copper market. that is a good sign for economic growth down road. back to you, cheryl casone and dennis kneale. cheryl: thanks to both of you. breaking news into fox business. want to show you once again live pictures out of cairo, egypt. reuters is reporting protesters...
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president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has a spending problem. not a receive knew problem. the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own. a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president about such a plan. >> mr. speaker, you did speak with the president earlier this week. can you characterize that call? did he have any kind of counteroffer? also, we understand that he just is making clear that it is -- got to be increase in rates for the wealthy or no deal. are you willing to give a little bit, maybe just not all the way to 39.6? >> it was the -- the phone call was pleasant. but it was just more of the same. the conversations -- the staff had yesterday just more of the same. it is time for the -- president, if he is serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> mr. speaker, the jobs report indicated unemployment is down roughly
president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has a spending problem. not a receive knew problem. the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own. a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president about such a plan. >> mr. speaker, you...
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there is going to be more talks going into 2013 on tax reform and dealing with the deficit further. >> reporter: bob cusack thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. jon: let's talk a little bit more about the pickle that house speaker john boehner is in. he's struggling to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he's facing growing criticism from members of his own party, the speaker removing four conservative congressman from key committees, the move seen by some as a way to close ranks over a potential fiscal cliff deal with the white house. outside conservative groups are voicing their displeasure saying speaker john boehner could even lose his speakership. carl cameron joins us live in washington. so he has a lot of problems with conservatives right now, car. >> reporter: sure it's not just off the hill. some of the members on the hill. fiscal conservatives are once again whispering, in some cases outwardly and openly explaining about house speaker john boehner and his handling of the negotiations with the white house. john boehner's proposal to increase revenu
there is going to be more talks going into 2013 on tax reform and dealing with the deficit further. >> reporter: bob cusack thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. jon: let's talk a little bit more about the pickle that house speaker john boehner is in. he's struggling to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he's facing growing criticism from members of his own party, the speaker removing four conservative congressman from key committees, the move seen by...
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social security didn't contribute to the deficits and debt. i don't think there will be any appetite whatsoever for touching social security. but those points i think democrats are quite unified on. the area where i think there is room for negotiation and compromise is, the rates are going to go up. i think we all recognize that. will the rates go up completely? are there other ways where they can come up somewhat short of that but make up the revenues by reducing deductions from higher income families? >> so the deal that we're talking about is halfway between the current rate and the former rate? >> well, i wouldn't say halfway. but i would say, as long as you can get to the revenues, if you can increase the rates and reduce the deductions for upper income households, you can get to the same dollar number and i think there's a willingness to entertain that. it does tend to complicate the tax code. the simplest way is simply to raise the tax rates up to the clinton levels and, you know, we do have a strong interest in simplifying the tax code
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real deadline is closer. >> there's no prospects for a deal. >> if you're going to be serious about deficit reduction it has to be about spending cuts not just raising taxes. ♪ >> bridge day is not safe. >> what would a nomination mean? >> burst into tears. >> liven things up. >> that's awesome. >> thank you richard lewis. let me introduce you to the new -- >> pleasure to be on your show. ♪ >> we thought she was just a singer and songwriter. >> what would you do to change one direction today? ♪ >> cbs porn "this morning." >> how much does your bra that you wear? >> what have you done that's most fun. >> tough one. >> jewish boy needs a big black guy. >> the world is always better with big black guys. >> possible reasons range from environmental toxins to tight under wear. >> moving on. >> threw are, charlie. >> threw are, my dear. where did that dress come from? >> all that and all that matters. >> just got apple tv. when charlie rose says you just got a piece of technology you know that's bad. >> it's the "a" word. >> all that matters. >> glad your sight returned. >> i'm gas i can se
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the deficit and debt will improve as 34%. but the one thing they are certain is that taxes will increase. and in the next four years how it affected you think the federal government will be on each of the following issues. we read a list of these issues, we rotated those. this is how it basically stacks up. ensuring long-term future of entire programs such as social security and medicare, 65%. 64% creating jobs, 64% improving public education, growing the economy, creating a business environment that allows for innovation. lowering the federal deficit actually false down to 40. not as much confidence there as a part on the other side. we been said the training faces a number of challenges including but not limited to large budget deficits, national debt, slower economic recovery, high unemployment, deep political divide on many issues. do you believe we will overcome these challenges in the foreseeable future as we've done in the past, or do you think these are unique set of challenges that are so serious that we might not be
the deficit and debt will improve as 34%. but the one thing they are certain is that taxes will increase. and in the next four years how it affected you think the federal government will be on each of the following issues. we read a list of these issues, we rotated those. this is how it basically stacks up. ensuring long-term future of entire programs such as social security and medicare, 65%. 64% creating jobs, 64% improving public education, growing the economy, creating a business...
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the deficit that would have fallen. still bad, but remarkably better than where we find ourselves today. republicans stand ready to work with president obama for a balanced and bipartisan solution. so far, no evidence of that. let's create a long-term solution that does not burden individuals and gives businesses optimism to go forward and invest in the american economy. then the economy can grow for all citizens. i look forward to the testimony of our witnesses. >> thank you. i will introduce our two witnesses. dr. zandi is the chief economist at moody's analytics. he looks at macro racquets and public policy. he is the influential source of policymakers and businesses and journalists. recently he published a report assessing the challenges of approaching the fiscal cliff and the most effective way to achieve long-term, fiscal stability. he received his phd from the university of pennsylvania. that will be a recurring theme in these introductions. [laughter] dr. zandi, thank you for being here. dr. hassett is the direc
the deficit that would have fallen. still bad, but remarkably better than where we find ourselves today. republicans stand ready to work with president obama for a balanced and bipartisan solution. so far, no evidence of that. let's create a long-term solution that does not burden individuals and gives businesses optimism to go forward and invest in the american economy. then the economy can grow for all citizens. i look forward to the testimony of our witnesses. >> thank you. i will...
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you can't make up the budget deficit just by raising money from rich people. >> let's talk netflix. receiving wells notice from s.e.c., regulators warning they may bring civil action against the company and the ceo for violating public disclosure rules with a facebook post. back on july 3rd, the ceo posting netflix a monthly viewing exceeded 1 billion hours for the first time ever in june. the s.e.c. requires public companies to make the information public. hastings says he didn't believe the facebook post was material information although that day the stock was up 13%. in a letter yesterday, he also suggested the fact the post was assessable to more than 245,000 subscribers to the page makes it very public. you can choose to disclose information through other venues considered fair that may reach fewer people at the end of the day. >> ain't up to you. it's up to the government. >> rules are rules. >> and these things do need to evolve. there is little doubt about that. i remember when fd was put in. i would have conversations with executives and say you can tell me -- i'm on cnbc -
you can't make up the budget deficit just by raising money from rich people. >> let's talk netflix. receiving wells notice from s.e.c., regulators warning they may bring civil action against the company and the ceo for violating public disclosure rules with a facebook post. back on july 3rd, the ceo posting netflix a monthly viewing exceeded 1 billion hours for the first time ever in june. the s.e.c. requires public companies to make the information public. hastings says he didn't believe...
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. >> if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the bucket and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits. >> it stars two senator and two republican reps. cnn reports the labor unions are spending more than a half of million dollars on this round of spots. we're back with more steph after the break. stay with us. ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: okay. and as we mentioned, unemployment numbers. hello! [ ♪ patriotic music ♪ ] >> stephanie: the lowest in four years. >> wow! >> stephanie: it has dropped to 7.7%. >> you're welcome america, i did that. >> no, you didn't. >> stephanie:
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lot of fuel to this current debate that is occupying washington over the fiscal cliff and finding a deficit reduction plan and also sort of coupled with trying to avoid these spending cuts and tax increases that are set for the end of the year, don. >> what is that, is that a leaf blower? what's going on behind you? >> reporter: honestly, sometimes -- i think it is a leaf blower. sometimes it's a jack hammer. sometimes it's a leaf blower. sometimes it's a lawn mower. always a lot of work going on here at the white house. >> thank you, brianna keilar. have a great morning. >> from jobs now to labor. protesters are furious that michigan's republican controlled house and senate quickly passed controversial right to work bills. the bills limit the right to strike and picket and employees cannot be forced to pay union dues. democrats and union supporters say this is a huge blow to workers' rights. >> it terrifies me that they're trying to pass this through so quickly with no discussion from the other side, no understanding of what's important in it. >> poppy harlow joins us now from lansing. how
lot of fuel to this current debate that is occupying washington over the fiscal cliff and finding a deficit reduction plan and also sort of coupled with trying to avoid these spending cuts and tax increases that are set for the end of the year, don. >> what is that, is that a leaf blower? what's going on behind you? >> reporter: honestly, sometimes -- i think it is a leaf blower. sometimes it's a jack hammer. sometimes it's a leaf blower. sometimes it's a lawn mower. always a lot of...
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guest: again, if we are deficit- financing the benefits, i do not think it is slowing economic growth. i cannot buy into the argument that we have the demand problem and we need to spend more money and have more stimulus to create economic growth. where we have is the failure of businesses to invest because they recognize the high taxes will keep them on the sidelines. they're facing the fact that they will face lower profits in the future and are not as willing to take risks and invest. if it costs more money to hire someone, we have the new taxes, insurance mandate under obama- care, and things like that that will make it more expensive for people to hire people. host: we have the cato institute and the economic policy institute with us this morning, and the one area where people seem to disagree is measuring the benefits of what $1 put into unemployment insurance means on the backside. mr. josh bivens, what is your estimate on what $1 buys in this program? guest: a lot of economic forecasters agree this is the most efficient form of economic support you can provide through fiscal p
guest: again, if we are deficit- financing the benefits, i do not think it is slowing economic growth. i cannot buy into the argument that we have the demand problem and we need to spend more money and have more stimulus to create economic growth. where we have is the failure of businesses to invest because they recognize the high taxes will keep them on the sidelines. they're facing the fact that they will face lower profits in the future and are not as willing to take risks and invest. if it...
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every year we have a trillion dollar or more deficit. when we're talking about $800 billion in taxes over ten years, that's only a few days of spending every year. if we're going to talk about taxes -- i'm willing to discuss taxes and a lot of others are willing to discuss tax, then let's talk seriously about taxes. if we're going to talk about spending cuts, let's talk seriously about spending cuts. but we're not going to take care of this $16 trillion debt unless we do that. >> people have described what's happening in the gop as sort of a civil war. you have the tea party, sort of mainstream conservatives and then moderates, those that remain. and then there have been sort of calls, to fire, to get rid of john boehner. do you think that's going to happen? would you support that? >> well, i think there's a lot of unease in the conference. there's a lot of unrest at all levels. tea party versus moderate versus mainstream theme. people like me are out there, calling for reductions in pentagon spending, calling for working with the democr
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. >> deficit reduction is not the goal here. the reason to get our fiscal house in order and the reason to pass a deficit reduction package that is balanced and allows for economic growth is to put our economy on a sustainable fiscal path which again, in itself produces positive economic benefits and revenues are part of it this. the president put forth and entitlement reforms and savings gleaned from our health care entitlement programs need to be a part of it. the president has been specific about that. >> brian: he's talking about generalitiys about unnamed cuts. jay carny goes on to admit if the president's proposal went to the democratically controlled senate it would not last. 92 where is the leadership. >> brian: running 1.1 trillion. they are unable to pass a budget for the last three years and you probably think that the fiscal cliff would not address these things. >> gretchen: don't you recall that the president said he had no interest in speaking to republicans until they agree to the tax increase on the top two perce
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i thought the deficit was a big rob and want to a measure that helps reduce the deficit help the economy? >> i just don't know. in the capital gains sense i personally think and i think it's also been proven in the past if you lower rates it increases the revenue to the government. we should be focused on revenue generation. >> let's talk about reality because you're somebody who has money and is looking at situations like this. has it changed your behavior on investments, you could make, you would make down the road? >> that's a great question. i would say me personally probably not. but, you know, i just -- when i look at the rest of the world and i look -- i can't understand it and i can't really know why do you think it is, why is there so much cash on the sidelines and earning such a low rate of return as we just saw pointed out? why aren't they investing it into things? what is holding it? i don't know -- >> what's happening at quicken loans, i know it's a privately held company. what are you doing in terms of jobs, in terms of -- >> we are doing really well. we positioned ourselve
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if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the budget and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits? and to our coverage? cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid will short change the people who need it the most. so if you don't want seniors to come up empty. call sen. warner and tell him don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. >>> werl come back to 9news -- welcome back to 9news. monday came here with your timesaver traffic. brunswick line is running 15 to 20 minutes. on the southbound side of 295 right before the sousa bridge, there's a disabled vehicle in the left lane. you can see eight before slow traffic already forming because of that. on the inbound side of i-66, earlier incident here at route 50 has been cleared. but slow traffic as you head in from route 29, lee highway, 31 miles an hour as you head toferred fairfax -- toward fairfax before that pace picks up. let's show you what it looks like if you're planning to head here in rockville. this accident long-standing in the intersection of seven locks roa
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long time, too big of a deficit reduction. we need something longer term and more gradual. >> that's his argument. this gives him a lot more ammunition, it seems to me, in dealing with a congress saying this proves that we are moving in the right direction and the worst thing we could do would bring everything to a halt. right? >> and i think he can legitimately say my economic policies are working. trust me on this one. this is what we need to do his approval rating is going up. people think the country is moving in the right direction. >> good news. good news on the jobs front. peter? >> a couple of quick numbers, igor volumesky tweeting out a couple of numbers he is saying out of the report healthcare at added 20,000 new jobs lat month. 8.3,000 hospitals, 4.7,000 in out-patient and 4 and a half thousand in nursing facilities. also, auto manufacturing jobs are up 10,000 jobs. >> that's good news. >> big news. we will dig those numbers up. >> the bail-out worked, you know, help for the auto industry really worked. >> no doubt
long time, too big of a deficit reduction. we need something longer term and more gradual. >> that's his argument. this gives him a lot more ammunition, it seems to me, in dealing with a congress saying this proves that we are moving in the right direction and the worst thing we could do would bring everything to a halt. right? >> and i think he can legitimately say my economic policies are working. trust me on this one. this is what we need to do his approval rating is going up....
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so you see on the one level at the abstract level, debt, deficit, fiscal cliff. there's an immediate transition been to the to do list, which is what they would like to see effort. finally, and interestingly with all of this battering that people have taken during this last few years of difficult economy, we gave voters, we will go through this question in detail, but we gave voters a choice. short term, solutions to fix the problem, our long-term visionary policies that will put us on the right track? interestingly enough at this point people are thinking longer-term. part of that restored optimism is different for different groups, but generally speaking people are looking for longer horizons. just quickly, the mood of the country, you see the track, the red truck, this long track. easy it is still 50% believe the country is on the wrong track but you see substantial improvement sends where we were in the middle, the late fall of 2011. so that's when it really bottomed out. 70% wrong track, that was around the time of the debt ceiling debate. only 33% of democr
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season, get a 2013 malibu ls for around $199 per month, or get $1,000 holiday bonus cash. budget and deficit, what do youn think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits? and to our coverage? cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid will short change the people who need it the most. so if you don't want seniors to come up empty. call sen. warner and tell him don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. >>> the capital area food bank plays a crucial role in our community making sure families do not go hungry. >> we are teamingen up with the organization again this year for stuff a struck and wisdom is live at the brentwood giant in northeast d.c. with the latest going on out there. a little bit of dancing going on already early this morning. can you top that? >> a little bit of dancing. i'm not taking part. i'm just out here to encourage people to donate to the worthy cause. who knows. people want to come out and donate and they want to dance, there is a possibility. we'll talk about something else right now. this is jamie miller. he is from giant. tell us why it i
season, get a 2013 malibu ls for around $199 per month, or get $1,000 holiday bonus cash. budget and deficit, what do youn think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits? and to our coverage? cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid will short change the people who need it the most. so if you don't want seniors to come up empty. call sen. warner and tell him don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. >>> the capital area food bank plays a crucial role in...
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if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the budget and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits? and to our coverage? cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid will short change the people who need it the most. so if you don't want seniors to come up empty. call sen. warner and tell him don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. >>> welcome back 6:39. there's a new way to get to the moon if you can afford the astronomical price. they unveiled new company to use existing rockets and a new lunar lander to send expeditions to the moon. it's not cheap. two tickets will set you back $1.4 billion. they hope to make the next expedition in 2020. >> christmas gift for the christmas list? >> i guess, if you have that kind of money, you're willing to take those kind of wild expeditions. >> where else are you going to go? you've probably been everywhere by now. >> i'd want to go somewhere warm. >> the moon isn't hot enough for you? >> i don't know. >> maybe a trip to the sun. coming up at 6:41. >> storm team 4 meteorologist ch
if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the budget and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits? and to our coverage? cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid will short change the people who need it the most. so if you don't want seniors to come up empty. call sen. warner and tell him don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. >>> welcome back 6:39. there's a new way to get to the moon if you can afford the...
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the one approach says we've got this deficit problem, and we want to address it. the other is the norquist approach, which is really more about reducing government to its irreducible core. and that is an indiscriminate sort of slashing. that's the wrong path for the country. and that's the path we can't take. >> things have changed so much since i was there. you talk about discretionary versus mandatory. when i was there back in the '90s, you could actually go after discretionary spending and move towards a balanced budget. we're way past that now. you're talking about 11% for domestic discretionary spending. that means everything, outside of defense, outside of medicare, outside of medicaid, outside of social security. that's about 85% of the budget. >> and we just made some pretty deep cuts last summer. >> right. so when you have a party saying we're going to balance the budget by going after education, transportation, r&d, i mean, energy, you're basically going after your seed corn while china is doubling on education. china is doubling down on r&d. china is do
the one approach says we've got this deficit problem, and we want to address it. the other is the norquist approach, which is really more about reducing government to its irreducible core. and that is an indiscriminate sort of slashing. that's the wrong path for the country. and that's the path we can't take. >> things have changed so much since i was there. you talk about discretionary versus mandatory. when i was there back in the '90s, you could actually go after discretionary spending...
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. >> the plan to reduce the deficit with bill clinton former chief of staff. those are your 5@5:30. doug luzader is life in washington with more. >> good morning, guys. we are looking for an important report coming out today. the expectation is -- first of all talking about unemployment. we know they fell. but the expectation today is that the unemployment rate will probably be unchanged which means it is stuck at about 7.9 percent. as far as the markets are concerned they are not exactly tanking but there is a lot of uncertainty. businesses and investors are unsure about what their tax burdens will be like this year. the impact that the fiscal cliff could have on the economy will go up across the board. >> as we get closer and closer to the end of the year i think the uneasiness will continue and the worry we might not see a resolution is going to effect our market. >> it has an impact or hiring as well. physical we go over the cliff the long-term benefits will in fact expire at the end of the year. as the president visited a family in virginia to talk about tax hikes on the wealth
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if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the budget and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits? and to our coverage? cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid will short change the people who need it the most. so if you don't want seniors to come up empty. call sen. warner and tell him don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. >>> listen to this. no more kickoffs in the nfl? believe it or not, that is a possibility. in an attempt to reduce player injuries, the nfl commissioner is considering eliminating kickoffs altogether. instead the team scoring a touch june or field goal would get the ball back at their 30- yard line facing a fourth and 15. they could go for it and try to keep the ball or punt it for the other team. before the 2011 season, the nfl moved kickoffed up five yards to the 5-yard line. after that soap, it reported that concussions were down 43%. >> after that soap, it reported that concussions were down 43 -- after that season, it reported that concussions were down 43%. >>> ken ulman has offer a w
if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the budget and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits? and to our coverage? cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from medicare and medicaid will short change the people who need it the most. so if you don't want seniors to come up empty. call sen. warner and tell him don't make a bad deal that cuts our care. >>> listen to this. no more kickoffs in the nfl? believe it or not, that is a...
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and by the way, they were a million% wrong on the deficit. it balanced the budget. not only balanced the budget, it gave us a $236 billion surplus. how do you like that for results? and that's what happened the last time we raised taxes on the upper bracket. so when they tell you the same old lies this time around, there is absolutely no reason to believe it. in fact, there is overwhelming evidence against it. so undeterred, they of course go on none the less. if you're not convinced, let me give you more evidence. look at this chart that i'm going to show you. this is economic growth. in 1991, george h.w. bush does a tax increase. obviously it's going to go down. let's see what happens. >> whoa. >> wait a minute, economic activity and the economy boomed. clinton in 1993 did another tax increase. then it must have crashed right? let's see what happens. whoa, it went up again. interesting, right? then of course, we have a bubble in terms of the tech crash you remember in 2000. it went down a little bit but then we had a tax cut in 2001 under george w. bush. after the
and by the way, they were a million% wrong on the deficit. it balanced the budget. not only balanced the budget, it gave us a $236 billion surplus. how do you like that for results? and that's what happened the last time we raised taxes on the upper bracket. so when they tell you the same old lies this time around, there is absolutely no reason to believe it. in fact, there is overwhelming evidence against it. so undeterred, they of course go on none the less. if you're not convinced, let me...
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the american indian tribe and they honored the president by giving him his own indian name running deficit. [ laughter ] >> the nation's debt is no laughing matter. lou dobbs will tell you why we are all in grave danger because of out-of-control government spending. three wise men, what did they do? >> jesse watters quizes the folks about christmas. >> they brought frankincense, miles an mur and. >> baby diapers? >> a wild wild waters world upcoming. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone from california. factor begins right now. hi i'm bill o'reilly reporting from los angeles, thanks for watching us tonight. i'm here to do the leno program this evening. during the long flight across country, i had a chance to analyze something very important to you. all of us needs to wise up and fast. you may have heard the story of new york city police officer who spent $100 of his own money to give bare foot man some boots. that man jeffrey hillman lying in the street when officer deprimo spotted him. >> it was extremely cold that night and you see this gentleman i tried to offer him to bu
the american indian tribe and they honored the president by giving him his own indian name running deficit. [ laughter ] >> the nation's debt is no laughing matter. lou dobbs will tell you why we are all in grave danger because of out-of-control government spending. three wise men, what did they do? >> jesse watters quizes the folks about christmas. >> they brought frankincense, miles an mur and. >> baby diapers? >> a wild wild waters world upcoming. >>...
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captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions >> brown: with no compromise in sight for a deficit deal, president obama pressed his case at the home of a middle class family in virginia today, part of his pitch to extend tax cuts for all but the very wealthy. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, we update the state of the negotiations and examine the push to make changes to social security and medicare >> brown: then, margaret warner looks at the political strife in egypt, after deadly clashes in the streets and resignations by top officials. >> woodruff: we have a battleground dispatch from a coastal city facing rising sea levels and the next big storm. >> if sandy were to come close or directly into norfolk i think we'd all be in big trouble. >> brown: we assess the latest diplomatic moves to end syria's war, as secretary of state hillary clinton meets with russia's foreign minister. >> woodruff: and ray suarez has the story of a program that aims to put students at low-achieving schools on a path to high school graduati
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as i've indicated, the only way to get the kind of revenue for a balanced deficit reduction plan is to make sure that we're also modestly increasing rates for people who can afford it. folks like me. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. >> the concerted effort from the white house is very clear. here's white house press secretary jay carney. >> what will produce a deal is an acknowledgement by republicans, republican leaders, that rates on the top 2%, the wealthiest americans, have to rise. there is no deal without that acknowledgement, and without a concrete, mathematically sound proposal -- >> but speaker boehner still insists he can get the revenue without raising rates? >> now, the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> some conservatives just can't stand hear
as i've indicated, the only way to get the kind of revenue for a balanced deficit reduction plan is to make sure that we're also modestly increasing rates for people who can afford it. folks like me. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. >> the concerted effort from the white house is very clear. here's white house press secretary jay carney. >> what will produce a deal is an acknowledgement by...
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if you want to get rid of the deficit, no one cares. you have taxes across the board and cuts across the board. and nobody wants that. shut up. >> i actually do agree with bill. i think we worry about the spending. >> interest rates are low and it is a complete manipulation by the federal reserve. what will happen at some point is the debt will be down graded again and then all of your loans and all of your interest rates will go up and you won't have a pot to pea in. -- to pee in. >> now you have my mind thinking of people peaking in pots. what will happen is we will all be broken and we will all eat you. >> you think i am worried? hello, myan calendar december 21st. >> if that doesn't happen though i call the thigh. >> by the way this is the most intellectual debate we have had on taxes. >> how come you never have us on ? >> greg, would you come on? >> i have plans. sorry. i have my stair climber and i have my shows. why"the price is right" is on at 11:00. what time are you on? >> you are such a diva. >> he dvr's it and watch itself a
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no way to have a credible deficit reduction plan without doing some major changes to social security, medicare, and medicaid. and huh they work all that out and crunch the numbers remains to be seen. republicans have given way on some of the tax issues waiting for the democrats to give way on entitlement issues not satisfied with numbers from the white house just yet. so, this nasty tango continues. >> we have to live within our means, nice if the government could figure out how to do so as well. >>> new campaign finance filings show the 2012 presidential election was the most expensive in history. tally put the cost at $2 billion which includes $86 million raised by mitt romney. a computer glitch delayed, president obama's final number, "the washington post" reports. the spokesman says that the president raised $1.1 billion. >> think what else the money could have gone toward in the tight times. >>> despite loud objections, republicans in michigan managed to push right to work measures through the legislature. hundred of union supporters protested. some who tried storming the senate
no way to have a credible deficit reduction plan without doing some major changes to social security, medicare, and medicaid. and huh they work all that out and crunch the numbers remains to be seen. republicans have given way on some of the tax issues waiting for the democrats to give way on entitlement issues not satisfied with numbers from the white house just yet. so, this nasty tango continues. >> we have to live within our means, nice if the government could figure out how to do so...
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. >> as i've indicated the only way to get the kind of revenue for a balanced deficit reduction plan is to make sure that we're also modestly increasing rates for people who can afford it. folks like me. >> instead of 65, it would be 67. polls show many americans are willing to consider that idea. >> the 2012 u.s. presidential race set a new record in campaign spending. finance filings released today show the cost of the race surpassed $2 billion. they include almost $86 million by republican presidential nominee mitt romney in the final weeks of the election. that final paoás -- boost posted the campaign total to a record high. >>> the network grew from july to september. that's a 2.7% increase to $64.8 trillion. network is still prerecession peak. a good reason why the reserve will provide better economic stimulus. >>> tonight she is accused of taking advantage of a woman in her care. ktvu's patti lee tells us who finally cracked the case for an elderly victim unable to fend for herself. >> reporter: 49-year-old marianita capra managed marin terrance that is until yesterday when p
. >> as i've indicated the only way to get the kind of revenue for a balanced deficit reduction plan is to make sure that we're also modestly increasing rates for people who can afford it. folks like me. >> instead of 65, it would be 67. polls show many americans are willing to consider that idea. >> the 2012 u.s. presidential race set a new record in campaign spending. finance filings released today show the cost of the race surpassed $2 billion. they include almost $86...
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. >> bob: can you tell us 30 seconds to tell us how to get the deficit down? >> greg: stop spending. >> bob: i get that. >> eric: i don't need 30 seconds. go over the fiscal cliff. take $1.2 trillion out of spending and tax hikes, stops the spending. mandatory spending cuts across the board. you know what? the only way to do it. only way to do it. everything else is chump change. >> dana: how do you deal with deficit reduction if you raise the taxes on a portion of the country that will pay for the government for 8.5 days? >> bob: you couple that with the social security adjustments and medicare. 'canes that is not what geithner put on the table. >> dana: that is going to be on -- >> bob: that is what is going to be on the table. >> dana: republicans held their feet on the fire. >> bob: whatever it took. >> greg: i used to think howard dean was a proctologist because he had his head up his butt but he pulled the curtain back. it's never about raising taxes on the rich because you run out of rich. >> andrea: right. >> greg: that is the point. >> eric: raise tax
. >> bob: can you tell us 30 seconds to tell us how to get the deficit down? >> greg: stop spending. >> bob: i get that. >> eric: i don't need 30 seconds. go over the fiscal cliff. take $1.2 trillion out of spending and tax hikes, stops the spending. mandatory spending cuts across the board. you know what? the only way to do it. only way to do it. everything else is chump change. >> dana: how do you deal with deficit reduction if you raise the taxes on a portion of...
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it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are hard proposals to make because they're substantive. to achieve fiscal sustainability in the context of $3 trillion in 10-year deficit reduction, i think we need to do more. >> looking at the republican plan and the president's proposal, do you see any common ground? >> the common ground is that we're looking at the same proposals. cbo has scored a number of different approaches. i also think there is no general agreement in the context of the current discussion, we will not make any major structural changes to these programs. we will not block grant medicaid, and we wi
it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are...